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Jarvooo
16-03-2009, 01:10 PM
Hi guys, my website is www.jarviswebandgraphicsolutions.co.uk and we specialise in helping new and small businesses with publications; logo designs, websites, that kind of thing.

If you could take a look at my site and offer any feedback i would be very grateful.

Colin

timmp.co.uk
16-03-2009, 04:42 PM
This is a critique, so expect the worst. I'm telling you my first opinions from the first few minutes of studying your site (so just like a client's first impression).


"The Official Book of 'No' In Portfolio Sites" includes these things:

- Conflicting colors
- Thin layout
- Stock photos
- Small, light text
- Random things for the hell of it
- Bad wording

First bullet point:
You have four incredibly conflicting colours (those colours are great, but the shades are poor), mixed in with a sea of other colours. What's the need? You should have four colours maximum, at the moment you have these:

> Red
> Yellow
> Blue
> Green
> Pink
> Orange
> Murky creme
> Black
> Grey
> White.

Big mistake. You want the user to be attracted to the content, not your illustrations. Even if they show skill, the user didnt come here to see good illustrations and a poorly laid out site. You sell web sites, don't you? Surely then, you should look like you know what a user needs to see, what layout, what colours, where, etc. You can do so much better than this.

Second bullet point:
I haven't checked your CSS for width, but you should set it to 850-950px. At the moment it looks about 750px roundabouts, which is way too small. Imagine viewing it on a 22" screen (1800px width or more). We're also talking about it for usability. As a reader, if you aren't naturally drawn to the main content, you're not interested. It's a natural reflex. More width means better reading.

Third bullet point:
Stock photos are useless in a portfolio website. You're there to show your creativity, not someone elses.

I'm not sure whether you created that globe or not, but it's not as attractive as it's intended to be. Too many gradients that don't suit each other.

Fourth bullet point:
Your text is a light grey, on a white background. Think about it from a usability and accessibility POV. If I was partially sited without a screenreader, then I'd have incredible difficulty reading the text not only for the size, but for the colour of the text.

Another thing to think about: if it's small, light, too dark, or boring... they're not interested. Human mind is a harsh thing.

Fifth bullet point:
I dont' really see the significance of the globe. Web 2.0 promotes simplicity and white space, not conflicting colours and busy areas. As I was once told, you're only as good as your worst piece of work.

The amount of gradients in your site is stupid. They more tell me you know how to do things, but you don't know how to stop, rather than being a perfect company.

Sixth bullet point:
"We are a company set up in North Manchester, we direct our main services into helping new and small businesses establish themselves on the world wide web..."

This is just like babble to me. You don't even have to include this on the homepage, I'm 90% sure it's just there to use up some space. Anyway, surely that should say this:

"Jarvis Solutions are based in North Manchester, set up to help small and new businesses establish themselves on the world wide web."

If you choose to overword your site, you must plan every single word. Otherwise, you'll look like (once more) like you're not sure what you're doing with the space given.


Coding

1. SEO
Your coding qualities determine your ranking on Google. At the moment you're not listed on the first three pages at least on UK and US search. This is all because of your equity. Small things make the biggest difference:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

That should be this:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-GB" lang="en-GB" dir="ltr">


This should be included in your stylesheet:

a:link {
text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover {
text-decoration: underline;
}
a:active {
text-decoration: none;
}


And all images should be given relevant alt="" tags, not just leave them blank. Your welcome image has no alt="" tag at all, despite the fact it's there to welcome people. Unless your image is there only for decorational purpose, you give it a full alt tag; description and all. If there isn't an alt tag included, the screenreader will read out the URL of the image, one character, by one.

There's more coding issues all through the site, but I get paid to do this, so I'm not going to give it all out for free! Plus, your site is better than okay with coding.


Good luck!
Tim Pennington

timmp.co.uk
16-03-2009, 04:53 PM
Agreed. I turned down three great business names for four reasons:

1. Domain name
2. Search engine listing
3. Similarity to other names
4. Complicated or too hard to remember.

Jarvooo
16-03-2009, 08:24 PM
Some great ideas there; i was thinking in particular about the domain name and a switch may be possible; particularly as it takes an awful long time not only to type but also to remember; the design is something ive thought alot about too as is the colour of the text, alot of the points made are things ive thought about over the past few days, clarification on them is great though !!

timmp.co.uk
16-03-2009, 08:49 PM
Good. Don't rest until you've got the best design.

Ask yourself these things: http://blog.frivolousmotion.com/2007/12/critical-questions-about-your-website.html


Oh, and it'd be interesting to talk to you about a partnership every now and again, say if you need SEO, or if I need some letterheads, stationery, etc :)

Jarvooo
16-03-2009, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by timmp.co.uk
Good. Don't rest until you've got the best design.

Ask yourself these things: http://blog.frivolousmotion.com/2007/12/critical-questions-about-your-website.html


Oh, and it'd be interesting to talk to you about a partnership every now and again, say if you need SEO, or if I need some letterheads, stationery, etc :)

Id be open to partnerships of that kind, alot of the points like i say are great, ive made the text black and changed the intro page; its far from a finished entity but no web site ever really is. I shown it to my business banking manager and he was very impressed but of course i had that equal entity thing with regards to finance forcing me to go elsewhere; but oevrall consensus has been great so far.

timmp.co.uk
16-03-2009, 09:11 PM
Great, good to know you take on other's thoughts, and aren't here to showcase designs :)

Jarvooo
16-03-2009, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by timmp.co.uk
Great, good to know you take on other's thoughts, and aren't here to showcase designs :)

Other peoples thoughts and opinions are what brings us to the dance ultimately, i think its extremely important to not only see what other people think but also implement certain ideas; it can only help other people who are reading to think; "yes hes done that, maybe we should too" etc etc.

Jarvooo
18-03-2009, 10:49 AM
Ive been focusing largely on SEO lately, all pages are CSS and HTML valid with w3c checks; ive submitted to around 100 sites over the past 2 days or so and sorted all key words too so hopefully things will look up.

Jarvooo
25-03-2009, 02:07 AM
Well i currently rank 13 for "web and graphic solutions Manchester" which is great for just short of 2 weeks opening; im looking to define my key words a little more too; opened a networking group on facebook and im looking for blogs/forums avidly to get more and more links around. Thanks everyone for your comments though; any more would be fantastic

Jarvooo
10-04-2009, 02:51 AM
Ive been getting some fantastic feedback lately regarding design and the visitor stats speak for themselves so SEO has definately improved.

I know for alot of people my One Stop Business Package isnt too great for them, and seems like im undercutting things but from my own point of view and experience, introductory offers can be amazing for the company, and with no source of funding 5 websites at 400 per shot; takes me extremely close to my funding requirements, id rather do that than please everyone at the moment

Jarvooo
16-04-2009, 11:58 AM
Hi Guys,

Ive rejigged my home page, can you take a look?

timmp.co.uk
16-04-2009, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Jarvooo
Hi Guys,

Ive rejigged my home page, can you take a look?


Once again, I'm a bit confused:

- Bad coding (but you're offering 3 months coding cover and SEO...?)
- Bad colours - Those 4 blobs on a post-it note don't even make any sense... they don't even represent a colour scheme of print, web or graphic design, and they clash.
- A body font that isn't even text, it's an image (bad seo, bad accessibility)
- "WebDesign" "GraphicDesign" "OurPortfolio" - Why are there no spaces? Makes no sense and adds nothing IMO. Also, the font and the colours are once again, just not the way to go.
- Things don't align properly on the left (the text has more padding in different parts of the document)
- You have 3 different colours of grey in your document...?
- Your on hover navigation colours don't match the rest of the document and aren't nice colours...


I'm being harsh, but I'm a bit confused... you offer bespoke web design, coding for 3 months and SEO, but looking at any of that on your homepage alone, I wouldn't approach you with a barge pole...

- Design wise problems are listed above
- SEO, you have about 200 lines of coding bloat, your first two lines of coding aren't good... you shouldn't be offered coding/seo if you can't master the basics IMO...


Just my two cents.

And regarding increased hits; that was probably because I asked a few guys on a forum what they thought of your deal (whether it was completely degrading the point of us trying to get clients or not), and they noticed that some of those logos weren't yours, but taken off JCD.

Hope this helps,
Tim Pennington

Jarvooo
16-04-2009, 03:17 PM
Tim,

Personal vendettas arent the way to go; just so that you are aware, JCP was made aware of the circumstance, the logos were abruptly removed, apologies sent and nothing further commented about it.

Youve displayed your own maturity in the numerous e-mails youve sent to me for offering such a service for such a price, if your annoyed because im cheaper than you just say; dont rubbish anything i do because you cant compete, step up and think business minded like the rest of us. Were here to make money, if friends come along the way then so be it, if they dont, then you can rest assured that your business accumen is developing you in terms of finance and custom, which is the aim no matter what business you are into.

Just for note; the website isnt a finished project, probably never will be theres always bits to tweek and add, its called web development, i finished the design this morning, and where is the bad coding ? As far as im aware all pages are valid HTML, as displayed by the link at the bottom.

The so called blobs on the paper are infact a logo; the colour scheme represented by such might as you say clash - however i dont have a red background blue text yellow pictures and green borders do i, subtle tones of grey mix well with white, grab a pallet, a paint brush some paper and paint, see what i mean ;)

Id highly suggest constructive comments if any must be given at all; not comments based solely on your inability to compete with a low priced offer.

Colin

timmp.co.uk
16-04-2009, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Jarvooo
Tim,

Personal vendettas arent the way to go; just so that you are aware, JCP was made aware of the circumstance, the logos were abruptly removed, apologies sent and nothing further commented about it.

Youve displayed your own maturity in the numerous e-mails youve sent to me for offering such a service for such a price, if your annoyed because im cheaper than you just say; dont rubbish anything i do because you cant compete, step up and think business minded like the rest of us. Were here to make money, if friends come along the way then so be it, if they dont, then you can rest assured that your business accumen is developing you in terms of finance and custom, which is the aim no matter what business you are into.

Just for note; the website isnt a finished project, probably never will be theres always bits to tweek and add, its called web development, i finished the design this morning, and where is the bad coding ? As far as im aware all pages are valid HTML, as displayed by the link at the bottom.

The so called blobs on the paper are infact a logo; the colour scheme represented by such might as you say clash - however i dont have a red background blue text yellow pictures and green borders do i, subtle tones of grey mix well with white, grab a pallet, a paint brush some paper and paint, see what i mean ;)

Id highly suggest constructive comments if any must be given at all; not comments based solely on your inability to compete with a low priced offer.

Colin

This is nothing to do with your offer. You asked for a critique, so I gave my opinion on what I thought of the website in it's current state. I personally did not like the website; which is an opinion. You cannot criticise me for pointing out what I dislike. If the website wasn't finished, then why post it up for critique knowing full well that I would like at all the aspects of the site; coding, colour scheme, and layout...?

It is not about maturity, I was rightfully concerned about the prices your website was offering. But that is a conversation over email, not over this thread. I'm not saying your website was rubbish, nor am I not being business minded. I understand you're here to make money, but undercutting the whole industry is immoral in my opinion. Whether you appreciate that or not, it's the way I feel. Despite this, I did not ever, ever mention your deal in the previous comment; I touched upon the services you offer. Bringing the matter up yourself isn't that mature, is it? ;)

The bad coding I'm referring to is the coding bloat. Although it may be standards compliant, it does not mean that it is optomised correctly for load up. I understand it's a development, but once more, you asked for a critique on your website at the moment knowing full well I'd be looking at it for all aspects; coding, colour scheme and layout.

I agree that subtle greys that gradient into white are great, back to the appearance of the site (which is what I was commenting on in the first place), but three separate shades of grey do not suit each other. Look at the Apple website; they use the same gradient from grey to white on the background of some of the text.

Once more, I am NOT, i repeat NOT commenting on your website through a previous annoyance, I was constructively, as requested, commenting on what I thought did not make sense. I was disappointed with the coding site as it does not represent correct coding practices, but yet you offer the service.

Apologies if you think that the comments I made were about your deal; I do not care about it anymore. I still get business, if not more than usual, because I have been a member of Shell forums for many months.

Jarvooo
04-05-2009, 12:01 PM
Ive just completed a site for www.cheap-carpet-tiles.co.uk - take a look let me know what you think - its a great site !!Business has been great lately for me so fingers crossed it continues !!

timmp.co.uk
04-05-2009, 01:14 PM
Ive just completed a site for www.cheap-carpet-tiles.co.uk - take a look let me know what you think - its a great site !!Business has been great lately for me so fingers crossed it continues !!


Hey Colin, hopefully I don't sound too harsh like I have done with other sites before... but here goes...!

- Nav seems a little too large, the two colour effect would look much better with less space
- The images showing accepted cards is quite randomly placed IMO, I'd rather know what the website is before being told I should be paying for something!
- The logo is too inconspicuous, and their name isn't really mentioned anywhere visible...
- The stock photo on the testimonial is quite strange... i don't think you really need it
- There's not a specific palette for the colours on the website, just a few random ones.
- The "small-caps" option doesn't look too great either, I think it'd look a lot better if it just blended in with the rest of the text
- The padding on the right column is a bit too much too IMO.

Just a few pointers, you know I mean well! :P

Also, check the xHTML validation for Strict 1.0 - Transitional makes your CV look a little bit worse if you're looking for a future job... the CSS looks good though.

SEO wise it's not the best I've seen either...

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Cheap Carpet Tiles | Bradford | Yorkshire</title>
<meta name="description" content="We stock and supply carpet tiles of all different styles and colours at the lowest of prices" />
<meta name="keywords" content="second hand carpet tiles, cheap carpet tiles, supply carpet tiles, bradford based carpet tiles" />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-uk" />
<meta name="copyright" content="Copyright � 2009 Cheap Carpet Tiles" />
<meta name="author" content="Jarvis Web and Graphic Solutions - Manchester" />
<meta name="VW96.OBJECTTYPE" content="DOCUMENT" />
<meta name="DISTRIBUTION" content="GLOBAL" />
<meta name="COVERAGE" content="WORLDWIDE" />
<meta name="verify-v1" content="h5ryCOXXFPR26dt1wdkcYVoB3BIDvkD7XHu7rgFVbfI=" />
<link href="css/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
}

function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.01
var p,i,x; if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
}

function MM_nbGroup(event, grpName) { //v6.0
var i,img,nbArr,args=MM_nbGroup.arguments;
if (event == "init" && args.length > 2) {
if ((img = MM_findObj(args[2])) != null && !img.MM_init) {
img.MM_init = true; img.MM_up = args[3]; img.MM_dn = img.src;
if ((nbArr = document[grpName]) == null) nbArr = document[grpName] = new Array();
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
for (i=4; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = args[i+1];
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
} else if (event == "over") {
document.MM_nbOver = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=1; i < args.length-1; i+=3) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = (img.MM_dn && args[i+2]) ? args[i+2] : ((args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up);
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
}
} else if (event == "out" ) {
for (i=0; i < document.MM_nbOver.length; i++) {
img = document.MM_nbOver[i]; img.src = (img.MM_dn) ? img.MM_dn : img.MM_up; }
} else if (event == "down") {
nbArr = document[grpName];
if (nbArr)
for (i=0; i < nbArr.length; i++) { img=nbArr[i]; img.src = img.MM_up; img.MM_dn = 0; }
document[grpName] = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=2; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = (args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up;
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
}
//-->
</script>

That ^^ for example, should be this...


<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-GB" dir="ltr" lang="en-GB">

<head>

<!--Basics-->
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Cheap Carpet Tiles | Bradford | Yorkshire</title>

<!--Desc and Keywords-->
<meta name="description" content="We stock and supply carpet tiles of all different styles and colours at the lowest of prices." />
<meta name="keywords" content="second hand carpet tiles, cheap carpet tiles, supply carpet tiles, bradford based carpet tiles" />

<!--CSS Link in-->
<link href="css/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />

<!--JS Link in-->
<script type="text/javascript" src="js/blah.js"></script>

Remember that Google doesn't look at Keywords (claims it never did either), and adding all these extra meta tags does nothing at all... it's just bloat... which means it lowers the load up time.


One question though, is this website one you made or a template? As I'm sure I've seen this somewhere before...?

Jarvooo
04-05-2009, 02:28 PM
Hey Colin, hopefully I don't sound too harsh like I have done with other sites before... but here goes...!

- Nav seems a little too large, the two colour effect would look much better with less space
- The images showing accepted cards is quite randomly placed IMO, I'd rather know what the website is before being told I should be paying for something!
- The logo is too inconspicuous, and their name isn't really mentioned anywhere visible...
- The stock photo on the testimonial is quite strange... i don't think you really need it
- There's not a specific palette for the colours on the website, just a few random ones.
- The "small-caps" option doesn't look too great either, I think it'd look a lot better if it just blended in with the rest of the text
- The padding on the right column is a bit too much too IMO.

Just a few pointers, you know I mean well! :P

Also, check the xHTML validation for Strict 1.0 - Transitional makes your CV look a little bit worse if you're looking for a future job... the CSS looks good though.

SEO wise it's not the best I've seen either...

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Cheap Carpet Tiles | Bradford | Yorkshire</title>
<meta name="description" content="We stock and supply carpet tiles of all different styles and colours at the lowest of prices" />
<meta name="keywords" content="second hand carpet tiles, cheap carpet tiles, supply carpet tiles, bradford based carpet tiles" />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-uk" />
<meta name="copyright" content="Copyright � 2009 Cheap Carpet Tiles" />
<meta name="author" content="Jarvis Web and Graphic Solutions - Manchester" />
<meta name="VW96.OBJECTTYPE" content="DOCUMENT" />
<meta name="DISTRIBUTION" content="GLOBAL" />
<meta name="COVERAGE" content="WORLDWIDE" />
<meta name="verify-v1" content="h5ryCOXXFPR26dt1wdkcYVoB3BIDvkD7XHu7rgFVbfI=" />
<link href="css/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
}

function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.01
var p,i,x; if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
}

function MM_nbGroup(event, grpName) { //v6.0
var i,img,nbArr,args=MM_nbGroup.arguments;
if (event == "init" && args.length > 2) {
if ((img = MM_findObj(args[2])) != null && !img.MM_init) {
img.MM_init = true; img.MM_up = args[3]; img.MM_dn = img.src;
if ((nbArr = document[grpName]) == null) nbArr = document[grpName] = new Array();
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
for (i=4; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = args[i+1];
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
} else if (event == "over") {
document.MM_nbOver = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=1; i < args.length-1; i+=3) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = (img.MM_dn && args[i+2]) ? args[i+2] : ((args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up);
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
}
} else if (event == "out" ) {
for (i=0; i < document.MM_nbOver.length; i++) {
img = document.MM_nbOver[i]; img.src = (img.MM_dn) ? img.MM_dn : img.MM_up; }
} else if (event == "down") {
nbArr = document[grpName];
if (nbArr)
for (i=0; i < nbArr.length; i++) { img=nbArr[i]; img.src = img.MM_up; img.MM_dn = 0; }
document[grpName] = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=2; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) {
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = (args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up;
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
}
//-->
</script>

That ^^ for example, should be this...


<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-GB" dir="ltr" lang="en-GB">

<head>

<!--Basics-->
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Cheap Carpet Tiles | Bradford | Yorkshire</title>

<!--Desc and Keywords-->
<meta name="description" content="We stock and supply carpet tiles of all different styles and colours at the lowest of prices." />
<meta name="keywords" content="second hand carpet tiles, cheap carpet tiles, supply carpet tiles, bradford based carpet tiles" />

<!--CSS Link in-->
<link href="css/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />

<!--JS Link in-->
<script type="text/javascript" src="js/blah.js"></script>

Remember that Google doesn't look at Keywords (claims it never did either), and adding all these extra meta tags does nothing at all... it's just bloat... which means it lowers the load up time.


One question though, is this website one you made or a template? As I'm sure I've seen this somewhere before...?

Hi Tim;

Yea i read a very good SEO article recently which explained some keyword references; and ive heard alot that google doesnt read the keywords so theyre not essentially important; but they can be very important if the key words are contained inside the content of that particular page; so its just preference really. But it is more important for title tags etc to be right more than anything else.

With regards to the floating code; i see exactly what you mean now; it can be easier to crawl with your methods; its something i actually may implement too, it makes everything look alot better and of course if loading times are improved; then its only a good thing. What i love about web design is things like this, doesnt matter how much you know; how well you can design, you learn something new everyday, you never stop; its fantastic !!

The site itself is largely based around a template he provided; he got ripped off previously so speed was paramount particularly as he had already advertised the site on leaflets etc but the company he used previously took his deposit and ran; i hate that really ive got about 5 or 6 people lined up whove had the same thing happen to them, terrible shame really.

Thanks for the input though Tim!! Btw if you ever need a hand design wise etc gimme a shout, its where i come to life really haha !!

timmp.co.uk
04-05-2009, 04:15 PM
Thanks for the input though Tim!! Btw if you ever need a hand design wise etc gimme a shout, its where i come to life really haha !!


haha, it's also my forte... it's my job! :P

Jarvooo
04-05-2009, 08:37 PM
It sure is ! How is business these days ?

timmp.co.uk
04-05-2009, 08:46 PM
I've turned a few jobs down at the mo, am finishing a large e-commerce project with a gadget company hopefully at the end of June... have got Dave's SEO to do though, as well as Omar's SEO, and some leaflet designs starting the end of this week, so I'm incredibly busy!

Which is kinda sad really because despite the fact I love my work, you never want to be doing it 24/7, you know?

Jarvooo
04-05-2009, 08:54 PM
I know exactly what you mean, ive come off one and straight onto another; then doing another and a huge project after that which should prove very lucaritive !!

parkerdeano
12-11-2011, 05:32 AM
Tim, the site was to be built without SEO. That was my job, and you'll actually find if you look into it the SEO is good. Not the best looking site and I made some changes to it, but he did exactly what he said he would.

Hope business is still good for you Colin.