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Isambard
15-06-2007, 08:57 AM
Hello everyone,

I'm running a small film and video production company and there's an increasing need in the promotional video industry for complex 3D motion graphics. Is there anyone here that has skills in 3D modeling? If so, I'd be very interested in getting in contact with you! From what I've gathered so far, 3D Studio Max seems to be the industry standard software.

If you think you might be able to help and are interested in doing some freelance work in the future, please email me on simon @ isambard-dm.com (take out the two spaces).

All the best,

Isambard

bluecube
15-06-2007, 10:33 AM
Hi Simon,

I have a friend who may be interested, i'll have a chat to him and get back to you.

Regards

Nathan

awebapart
15-06-2007, 11:13 AM
3D animations and CGI video can end up being quite a drain on budgets, which is why you generally only see this in bigger budget productions (3D Studio Max is very expensive - more expensive than most video editing packages).

'3D modeller' is a pretty generic term whereas in reality there are many different areas of 3D modelling that people specialise in.

You may also find that you need more than one supplier, since different suppliers will have different specialisations, e.g. one supplier may specialise in architectural visualisations and walkthroughs, another supplier may specialise in cute character animations, etc.

There are also some 3D modellers that just specialise in creating high res still images, you probably want to avoid these modellers, if you are a video company producing video.

There are also some 3D modellers that specialise in low-polygon realtime 3D models for games, again you probably want to avoid these modellers if you are looking for more high-polygon photorealistic animations.

Merely getting a 3D Studio Max professional involved may not help either because it depends on what that profesional has done in the past and what you want to do. There are 3D Studio Max professionals out there that have just used the package to create episodes of South Park, yes South Park is created using 3D Studio Max!

It might be worth you picking up a copy of 3D World magazine from WH Smiths, you might find some useful contacts there.

Just out of interest, what type of 3D animations are your clients asking for?

Isambard
15-06-2007, 11:38 AM
Hi guys, thanks for your responses

Nathan:

That's really kind, thanks!

I see Blue Cube Media is based in Birmingham which is where I am also. I'm looking to build web-media contacts in the midlands who can help put videos onto websites - are you interested in this line of work? If so drop me an email and we can discuss it further.

awebapart:

Thanks, this is just the kind of info I'm after - very useful stuff!

The types of things I require are (I should imagine!) at the less technical end of the scale. i.e. 3D company logos spinning around, with parts moving etc.

This is something I've had enquires about in the past, and would like to be able to offer in the future. Also, on some of the bigger projects that I've seen - lets say a housing development company - they tend to want quite cheesy things like a 3D house where a video promoting various aspects of their company is displayed as you 'fly' through each window. It's this whole corporate glossy feel that CGI does well.

Many thanks,

Simon

DataBug
15-06-2007, 11:54 AM
Before anyone splashes out on 3D Max - may be worth checking Blender and other open source úD apps (Wings3D springs to mind but there are others).

awebapart
15-06-2007, 12:05 PM
At the less technical end of the scale, the 3D spinning logos, parts moving, you will probably find that a lot of companies can provide this, even some web and graphic design companies. Any onscreen animation that a web or graphic design company can produce, whether it is an animated gif graphics file, Flash, Swift 3D from www.erain.com , or an animated website, can be captured in video format using screen capture software.

Dont forget at its most basic a 2D logo can be made to look like it is rotating in 3D on its central axis by merely stretching its width from full width to zero width with time, and this is just a 2D operation.

You will probably find that your video editing package has some 3D effects capability too for this kind of effect, or there is some add-on for it.

As for the architectural walktrhoughs/flythroughs, this is more specialist the more photorealistic you want the animation to be. In a lot of cases it is easier to achieve these animations with specialist architectural visualisation packages rather than the more general purpose 3D Studio Max. You may even find that some of the home 3D design packages might be appropriate for some projects, google for 3D home designer.

moneyman
15-06-2007, 03:35 PM
If you know exactly what you want try
contractedwork dot com or freelancers net.
i have used people in both. overseas guys are fine if the project is clearly defined from the start. i have a graphics company and we often just post projects like "turn the logo into 3D and raise it out of a pool of water" or split it into smaller sub parts. Think of how the job is..time consuming or technical. farm out the time side. keep the tekkies close.

awebapart
15-06-2007, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Isambard
Also, on some of the bigger projects that I've seen - lets say a housing development company - they tend to want quite cheesy things like a 3D house where a video promoting various aspects of their company is displayed as you 'fly' through each window.
Obviously if the building doesn't exist then a 3D model or other artist's impressions will come in handy in these cases.

For subjects that do exist, e.g. existing office space in an office block, it is also worth bearing in mind that most 3D animations cannot do the real thing justice like real video footage or real photography.

Fly through effects can also be achieved by just using panning and zooming. In some cases you can even do this by panning and zooming high res still images, aka the Ken Burns effect:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns_Effect

These features are common in high end video editing packages.

To give a quick example of how this might apply to flying through windows have a look at:

www.awebapart.com/home/private/slideroll

JamieM
16-06-2007, 06:34 PM
Hi Isambard,

Check out www.web3d.co.uk

They are members of this forum and I would highly recommend them if their services meet your needs. :)

Edit: Think their work is all web related rather than video but might be useful to you all the same.